EWEB Board of Commissioners — June 2, 2026

0:01 I would like to call the June 2nd 2026 regular meeting of the Eugene Water and Electric Board to order. The first agenda item is the agenda check. Does anybody have any additions, corrections, or comments about the agenda? If not, then John Hariston, our new general manager, self-introduction, please. >> All right, good afternoon, everyone. Um I'm John Hariston, the um new GM and CEO of EWEB. Um it's a pleasure to be here. Um just wanted to take an opportunity to formally introduce myself to the to the community. I've had an opportunity over the past um 3 and 1/2 weeks to um meet and introduce myself to much of the workforce and of course the board um and other stakeholders in the community, but um just formally um introduce myself to

0:46 those who are at this meeting and online. Um just a little bit about myself personally, spent 35 years at the um Bonneville Power Administration um in various roles, um the last 5 and 1/2 years as administrator CEO, um but have background in compliance as chief compliance officer, um chief administrative officer dealing with all the internal workings of Bonneville as well as the um chief operating officer. Um I am a um long-term resident of Portland, Oregon. I grew up there, um Grant High School general, proud. Uh so um spent a lot of time in the area. And um my wife of 33 years, Paige, and I have four um you know, wonderful daughters who are

1:32 all out of the house now, and um we have one grandchild, um and a um a um black lab named Duggy. So, um you'll probably see me on the jogging paths with Duggy every once in a while. Um I've enjoyed the transition to Eugene and the community. Um it's gone probably as well as I could possibly imagine um integrating into the um EWEB family here as well as um the community. so I personally want to thank everyone um for um welcoming us uh into the community and making it a very smooth transition. So, really appreciate and look forward to spending a lot of time here. Um the other thing I wanted to just kind of share is as a leader, um you know, I just coming here, my core principle is

2:18 really uh about leadership is influence influencing lives. Um you know, it's not about flowcharts or or titles. It's about building relationships. Um I don't lead from a line of desk. I'm more of an interactive experience is what I've been describing myself. So, I'm going to get out in the field and meet folks in the community. Um and the commitment that I will make to everyone, the board, the workforce, and the community is that, you know, I'm here to really listen first. I want to make sure that I'm hearing uh what the interests are and what we can do better in serving the community. So, um that's important to me. I think um the first 6 months I had shared with the board um was really to conduct a lot of listening tours. So, getting out, meeting with folks, having

3:04 coffee, um getting an understanding of their perspectives and what I could do to help them do their jobs better and make the community better. Um also, engagement. Um just, you know, there's a lot of things that we've got going on here at Anyweb. It's a um big organization. It's got a lot of serious challenges. And so, making sure that I'm understanding um both on the water and in the electric infrastructure, the the um investments we need to make. So, we're making the right investments at the right time. Um and then also, just understanding how our vision and strategy actually impacts the community. Uh I can't do that sitting behind a desk. So, I have to get out and see how it's actually being act, you know, um implemented in the community. So,

3:49 um you'll see a lot of me. Uh I'll ask questions on how we're doing, if the things that we're focused on are actually hitting the mark. So, you know, just be as you know, open and and you know, communicative as you can with me. I just want to make sure I'm hearing from you. And then another piece of it is that, you know, it's about transparency with me. I really believe that for us to be good stewards of the resources that we've been entrusted with, we have to be transparent in the decisions we're making. So, you can expect to get information from us, understand the direction that we're going, and you know, be asked again if you know, these are the things that are meeting the needs in the community.

4:34 I would say in the first four and a half weeks, the you know, things I've learned is that there's a real focus on sustainability, reliability, uh affordability, and of course, public safety. So, we're going to continue to focus on those areas and in build. And so, you know, as as you see things come out of the organization that I lead, strategically we're going to be in line with those areas. And hopefully, the message is being getting out to our workforce, particularly around safety, that I value their safety, their working environment, and making sure that they go home in better condition than that they were when they came to work. That's a personal goal of mine. So, we'll continue to to work and grow in those

5:19 areas. And then, you know, once we get through those first six months, we'll begin to actually opera- operationalize the things that, you know, I've been learning and working with the board to to build in terms of vision and mission. And you know, I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm looking to roll up my sleeves and and really get into the the real serious issues. And you know, all of that comes with challenges. And, you know, I'm looking at the financial aspects of the organization and making sure that we're being fiscally responsible. So, there's a lot of tough decisions to make. The board will make and and we'll work together to make sure that we're as again being that trusted steward for the community. And you'll

6:05 see a lot more rigor and I think financial discipline on the things that we pursue as an organization. Um you know, with that come big decisions. We're going to be focused on decisions around the electric utility. You know, we've got a number of infrastructure investments to make. We'll talk a little bit more as we move forward about the things we've got to do at Carmen and Leaburg. The other piece of it is on the water side, the water utility, and making big investments around resiliency. And so, we'll be real transparent about how we go about making those decisions. And of course, internally, we've got management systems that we're implementing and we're going continue to have to make investments on critical infrastructure. So, we're able to deliver on the

6:50 missions that we've got in front of us. Um and, you know, with all that, we're going to have to start turning our attention to a plan, a strategic plan. The current one is going to be sunsetting here pretty soon. And my goal is to make it as collaborative as possible. Um setting up opportunities for, you know, no different than the community input that we get here, to understand what are the interests and the needs so that way we're building a strategy that works for the community. And that I'm actually working with the board to make sure that we're enacting the vision, the collective vision that we have for the utility. So, you know, all of those things I think are going to be important and are going to be coming at us fairly quickly.

7:36 And then, you know, I think the last thing I'll just mention is that I I really believe that EWEB is not only a a public treasure here in Eugene, but is positioned for success. And my role is to really provide the type of leadership that's going to enable that success. Building coalitions, working together to make sure that we're taking the steps necessary to be successful together. So, you know, my promise is to make sure that I'm listening, getting out in the community, and being as transparent as I can with the decisions that we're making. And you know, making sure that we're living up to the values of this utility and ensuring that the community can rely on us in the at the

8:23 end of the day. So, thanks a lot. That's what I wanted to share and and I will turn it back over to the board president to see if there's any questions. >> Any questions? None. Next agenda item is items from board members and and the general manager. So, we'll go around again. Mindy. >> We had the pleasure of taking a float trip down the river with some of our community partners, and I just really want to thank staff for organizing that. I know that it's no easy feat to do all of that, but for us, it's incredibly informative, not only to see the projects that we are and have been working on, but also to talk with our fellow stakeholders and hear what

9:08 they're doing and for them to also see and hear what we've been doing. So, thank you to staff to make that happen. >> Josh. >> Thank you. And I'll just echo Mindy's sentiment. I agree it was a great time and great opportunity for us to connect with with our community and truly it was a Sisyphean effort from staff. So, thank you for hurting all of the cats. I greatly appreciate it. Thanks. >> Sonny. >> Well, also got to attend the float trip. Thank you to staff. Thank you to those who came out. Um also attended the ribbon cutting for the Carmen Smith and the recreation sites um that are that have been closed since almost the beginning of when I started on the on the board. Nine years, it's been a

9:53 while. Uh so it's great to be able to see out see uh see the sites and get to reopen them even though it was frigidly cold. Um unlike today. And then the last thing that I wanted to just make a quick comment on um I I was uh well two things. One, welcome John Harrison. Thank you for uh your speech. It's It's been a real pleasure. I got the uh opportunity to uh ride out with John to the ribbon cutting ceremony and it was just I'm very excited to have you join the join the EWEB family as you put it. Appreciate that. Um anyway, last thing I wanted to say was about uh constituent who contacted me about um apparently we switched to the date that

10:40 bills um are um potentially due and I don't know if that's something that can be um chosen or if we could do something to allow like a one-time switch. Apparently this person's living on social security. The check comes at a certain date and we moved up the date from like the 5th to the 28th. And it's causing a little bit of headache. I'm I'm brought it here tonight because if there were other commissioners who were interested in um that or had uh had anybody reach out to them. Um I'm also getting word that mail is taking a lot longer to get through. So I'm wondering if that may also be impacting some of our customers that don't get bills electronically, that may also, you know, not be as tech savvy or

11:25 get their bills online through auto pay. So I just wanted to put those two things out there or that if there were nods, um, to try to find some solutions there. I think it would be greatly appreciated in the community. >> So, before I go, we have a request to maybe have staff look into what Sonja's concerns are. I would support the staff time and so we have got four head nods and so, um, John, if you could maybe look into what the concerns are because I think we've had people come to public testimony about that as well about the timing and I I I know it's ridiculous. I send them letter to my neighbor and it goes to Poland and it's takes a week. And so, whatever we can do to help those people, if we can tweak the system or whatever, that would really greatly be appreciated.

12:10 >> All right. Now, that sounds good. We'll have our customer solutions fix that Thank you. >> Um, I've got several items. Number one, I'd like to congratulate Lexi Miller on his successful, looking forward to you joining us here in about four, five months and and looking forward to it. I go way back to when he was still riding his stingray bicycle. I know I know when he was just a little one. So, it'll be it'll be an interesting dynamic. Um, several things. Um, Carmen visit was probably one of the most educational for me in 20 years I've been sitting here as far as learning about sinkholes and Trapper Hall and everything else and, you know, hats off to every staff there, but Lisa, Mark, Andy, and Patty, they they I'm I'm learned a lesson that [clears throat] when you have a question, go look at it because you have I have so much more knowledge about sinkholes and about fish ladders and the

12:57 passage and everything else and what makes sense and what doesn't. And it's a whole lot more eye-opening for me to to be there. I mean, the ribbon cutting and everything was great, but to see that portion of it, which was kind of a side afterward, was worth the whole day. And and so, thank you for doing that and and I'm I'm going to be attending more of those. So, I know careful what you ask for. Um, I attended and on Saturday Lane Electric had their annual meeting and I'm the liaison. I'm also customer. And and they were very, very appreciative and complimentary to EWEB and the staff about the transition about getting the changeover May 1st and everything. They was They had the largest annual meeting they've ever had. They had almost 300 people there. And normally they have 100. And a lot of upriver people cuz I talked to a lot of them. And they were They were very

13:43 pleased about and then there was only questions about the the some of the charges, but other than that, generally speaking, kudos to the staff and everybody for making it happen. Um and then that and that's it and on on that and then uh uh they did um the head of NRECA, the National Rural Electric Association, was our guest speaker. And he spoke not only about EWEB staff, but he did point out Jason Heuser. And he even said, "You know, you got about that." And gave him kudos. And so I just wanted to reiterate that here to know that Jason got called out in all positive. So, that's it for me. Um General Manager Don Hurston, anything from you? >> Yes, um Board President. We do have a couple of items that I'd like to mention. Um just in terms of some of the um events that I've been

14:29 getting out in the community and attending. Um of course, um the um Equity and Community Consortium event um that took place on May 21st um was a a good opportunity for me to get out and meet a lot of the uh heads of nonprofits. So, really appreciated the opportunity to do that. Um also on May 11th um attended the Regional General Manager Quarterly um meeting at um Blachly Lane. Uh got to meet all the other GMs there and um and that was a a good good opportunity for me to begin relationships. Um also on the 26th was able to um attend the Powertown safety event at Fairfield Elementary School, which um was great. It was really um I think important to see these kids

15:15 go and learn about power safety and you know, the more we can get out there um talking about how to be safe and knowing that I think the better. Um and then, of course, the um Carmen Smith Recreation um ribbon cutting, that was a a really well um you know, executed event. Um the team did an outstanding job, so I agree with all that. I echo all of the um things there. Um upcoming this week, I will be attending the um Public Power Council PPC um Executive Committee meeting on um Thursday. On Friday, I'll be at the Pacific Northwest Utilities Conference um PNUC Board of Directors meeting. Um and then, um also wanted to provide an opportunity for um the Assistant GM

16:00 Deborah Heart to talk about um really good news that we've got on the um bond pricing front. Deborah. >> Thank you. Uh so, today EWEB was in the market uh pricing water bonds, and uh it was a good day to be in the market, and a great utility to go to market with. EWEB is a known credit, very popular, so much so that we were five times subscribed, so we had orders for five times the amount of bonds than we actually could issue this morning. We were able to realize about $120,000 a year in annual savings by refinancing uh a portion of our debt, and we'll make

16:46 a deposit to our project fund for about $60 million to continue the infrastructure investments uh that you all uh have approved in our capital plan. Our true interest cost was 4.29, and we'll be in the market Monday, Tuesday, sorry, Tuesday of next week with the electric utility, and I'll make sure that General Manager Harriston has an update that he can provide for you all. So, thank you. >> All right, no additional items. Thank you. Congratulations. That's a good sale. Um okay, the next item is um correspondence. John Hairston, there I noticed there's one item.

17:31 >> Yes, um so what we wanted to do was just make sure we brought to your attention the correspondence that was provided to you from our water utility team. Um basically, we will be bringing in July um board meeting uh some estimates for um I think four alternatives um regarding the second um treatment plant. Uh the first will outline basically what was proposed in 2017, and then we would um look at um offering pricing or at least costs um for three different alternatives. Um and we'll get more into that in um in the um 2v1s or the individual meetings that we'll have with board members this week. Um but we wanted to at least just

18:17 bring to your attention that this will be an item coming up and what we would be discussing in July. >> Okay, any questions or comments? If none, then the next agenda item is going to be the um um public input. And I have to read this preamble, and so I apologize for going fast, but I do. Um welcome to the public input session for this meeting. EWEB is a public not-for-profit organization whose charter is to deliver drinking water and electricity to our community. Although this forum is not used for an open back and forth dialogue, commissioners and staff value hearing diverse perspectives and receiving community input. Speakers are asked to keep their testimony relevant to EWEB business, and requested everyone share their comments in a productive and respectful manner. Should speakers or audience members become disruptive, they may be muted and or removed from the meeting. Uh at this time, we have two callers and

19:03 um two in-person speakers. When your name is called, you'll have up to 3 minutes to provide your comments. The um public input session is now open, and I will start with the first on uh caller, which is Cathy King. Can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Okay, thanks. Great. This is Cathy King from Amazon, and um I wanted to say I have my speech written right here. Hold on. Okay. Um Welcome John to EWEB. When in Eugene, do as Eugenians do. Ask questions. Consult rate payer owners to innovate how to preserve the environment and economy. Keynoter said at UO sustainability talk

19:50 that every ecosystem on Earth is in a fragile state of disrepair 20 years ago. Business as usual may not be possible with increasing prices. Rate payers must be involved in energy planning like ERP studies. Having lived in Oregon 52 years involved in energy education, including former that conservation is our major new energy source, and at the 1977 first Southern Oregon Energy Fair Visions for Humanity partly funded by the utility in Ashland attended by 5,000 people, keynoter was Governor Tom McCall's director of the transition project transition from nuclear and fossil to solar etc. His name was Joel

20:35 Schatz. Um I did have 25 energy education exhibits and fairs around Oregon including the Oregon State Fair 1982 to 84, and we were allowed to use the motto she flies with her own wings, the state motto. Yet, about 95% of energy still imported over its borders. EWEB's energy has increased little, although you know, as a percentage of EWEB's energy mix. And yet, the cost of solar cells are 10% of what they were decades ago when EWEB board member Jack Craig and I sponsored an all-day photovoltaic workshop for 30 people, and EWEB in early '80s vote voted on $15,000 to research photovoltaics. I saw the radiation increased here 10 to

21:21 15% in the 10 to 10 to 15 years preceding '07 for Dr. Frank Nola speaking at Lane County Energy Roundup in '06-'07, then director of UO Solar Radiation Monitoring Lab which BPA and EWEB had funded through funds for years. So, not EWEB anymore, unfortunately. And it was co-sponsored by UO Sustainability Department years later made the mydo my town soda on the EWEB board. When Earth Day fund funder Dennis Hayes spoke here, he proclaimed our solar energy will provide most of the world's energy for next gen. This community in Oregon decades ago when Paul consistently voted for solar renewables ahead of nuclear and fossil fuels. Yet, EWEB had not pulled ratepayer

22:08 owners widely in recent years in any visible venues before authorizing the lobbyist Jason to say thumbs up for small-scale uh modular nuclear reactors. I called Jason and inquired, "Who authorized him to say EWEB goes thumbs up on nuclear at Oregon legislature a couple years ago?" He could not uh cite any citation. He apologized and said, "Well, he wouldn't do it again." >> All right, Kathy, can you wrap it up, please? Just the >> Yeah. >> finish your sentence here and then we'll go to the next speaker. >> the federal Department of Energy small-scale appropriate technology grant committee. We had $11 million in requests and only two or 300,000. And then they can the very best program in the country that the GAO had done an analysis

22:53 >> Okay, Kathy. Thank you very much. >> and an advisory committee. Thank you. >> Thank you, Kathy. Our next speaker is Josh Corn followed by Meredith Tubs. >> Yes. >> Hi, can you hear me? >> Can, thank you. >> Okay, thanks. Uh yeah, hi. Um I usually make it in person and I I just too busy, I couldn't make it, but I wanted to express again my concern about the the high rate the high rate that you're proposing to charge for the smart meter opt-out, um

23:41 especially for new opt-outs. Um I I think this is uh um it's over market um and it's it's very concerning to me because more and more people are learning now about how toxic these smart meters are for electromagnetics and health and uh are are probably going to be wanting an opt-out in the future, but aren't aware of what they're subjecting themselves to currently. You've already been charging us consistently for meter reading even when you're not meter reading. So, there's no reason for an opt-out fee at this point. Uh I also

24:29 would like to um concur with Kathy King that we should not be moving towards uh small modular nuclear reactors uh for power and I also want to add in wh- which is likely the reason that I I I'd imagine she might have brought that up is that data centers are not our friend, and we should stand against the data data center rollout that is happening all over the country right now. This is a massive AI bubble in a lot of very savvy investors opinion, not just little old

25:16 me, but a lot of people realize that number one, these AI companies [clears throat] do not have proper uh revenue models. They're not turning a profit. Their only profit is the is the future of the surveillance state. And uh and and we're already the leader. This is not a race uh just like like the race to 5G a few years ago um that we were we had to beat China to 5G, which it was was just a cover story. And the the same applies here. We have at least four to five, probably I I forget what the numbers are, but we

26:01 we've got multiples of um we've of data centers compared to China, and we don't have the power infrastructure for all these thousands of of data center rollouts that they're planning. We don't have the power grid for it, and and we should not implement small nuclear reactors just to power these these are >> Okay, Josh, can you wrap up your comments and your thoughts for >> Sure. Yeah. These are not for the people. That's the bottom line, and uh and and we should not support them. And I I hope you guys stay away from allowing data centers in

26:48 our area. >> Thank you. >> You bet. Uh next in person is Meredith Tubs followed by um um Rachel McKinnis. >> Hello everyone. Uh my name is Meredith Tubs and I live in Ward 1. I'd like to start by welcoming the new general manager. We're glad you're here and excited to have you in Eugene. I also want to share my appreciation for the climate work that EWEB EWEB does and for the report that was shared at the last meeting and to also say that more is needed particularly for low-income customers and for our most vulnerable neighbors as climate change intensifies and affordability becomes increasingly challenging. These crises are not separate issues.

27:33 They are very much intertwined and as we address each one individually, we need to remember that they are at their heart interconnected. The report highlighted that it may be possible to save more to produce more emissions more quickly by focusing incentives on large businesses, large emitters, but that while that may give the most bang for the buck on the surface, directing our limited resources in this way leaves out those who are most vulnerable and most at risk. Rather than funding change to those who quite frankly can and should be making the changes on their own without EWEB's help, I would ask that EWEB expands rebates and incentives that help homeowners, landlords, and renters reduce their energy usage and costs by incentivizing higher efficiency models,

28:20 improving insulation in homes, and expanding access to electric transportation and charging infrastructure. This has the added benefit of improving pub pub Excuse me. It's been a bad allergy day. It's spring in Eugene. Um I'm improving public health by reducing indoor air pollution as people swap out gas furnaces and stoves for electric models. Reducing residential emissions also improves outdoor air quality, which is important especially during our increasingly smoky summers and our air stagnation days in the winter. Equally important, investing in home improvements for the people of Eugene meets the cost of living crisis head-on. The geopolitical chaos and the resulting price spikes have made it clear that we need to be investing in reliable and resilient locally produced clean power.

29:07 To do this, we need decisive dedicated action by all of you. We need strong collaboration and creative partnerships between EWEB city to meet the challenges that our community faces when it comes to climate resilience. How do we ensure that people are safe during heat waves and extreme weather events and air quality advisories? How do we ensure that our most at-risk and vulnerable neighbors aren't bearing the brunt their health, to their well-being, and to their wallets? How do we make sure that the next generation of EWEB customers are better equipped for the changes that are coming and for the challenges that are already here? I want to leave those questions with all of you to guide the work as you settle in, come up with a new strategic plan, do all the important work that you all continue to do. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um Rachel McGinnis.

30:09 >> Members of the board, I would like to address the ongoing issue with smart meters and the fee you plan to impose on customers who choose to opt out. At our last meeting, one of the members tried to compare the RF of a smart meter to that of a cell phone. Such a comparison is deceptive and based on erroneous and inappropriate assumptions. The RF field strength of a smart meter averaged over a 24-hour period can well exceed the localized exposure from intermittent cell phone use in that same time. When considering RF exposure of a smart meter, it's not just the total duration, but the pulse count, pulse intervals, and peak exposure levels. Furthermore, it must be considered that

30:54 mandated smart meter exposure is chronic and involuntary. It's one thing for an adult to voluntarily engage in a 3-minute phone call. It's quite another to allow children to sleep in a room located just a few feet away from a smart meter, being exposed all night long. This exposure of disruptive, erratic, and chronic pulsed RF emissions from a smart meter cannot be fairly compared to an individual's voluntary and intermittent use of a cell phone. The FCC has not updated its human exposure limits for RF radiation since 1996.

31:41 Rapidly growing peer-reviewed research demonstrates that RF radiation from wireless technologies produce harmful effects at levels far below these current current FCC limits, especially with chronic exposure like a smart meter. It is now recommended that FCC limits need to be reduced by at least 200 times to protect the public against adverse health effects. So, we are clearly headed in the wrong direction. Your counter is that I can opt out of the RF signal if I pay a fee. Well, what about the fees I have been paying all along for a manual meter reading? What about the dirty electricity that the smart meter emits throughout my

32:27 entire home, even with the signal turned off? What about my neighbor's smart meter that is connected to my home and just a few feet away from where my children sleep. What about all of that? You pretend to give me a choice, but you've slowly and strategically taken away my choice to live in a safe and healthy home. I'm at the mercy of whatever price tag you want to penalize me with for opting out and then continue to raise the rates to who knows what. Members of the board, I believe that you are not intentionally trying to harm myself or my community, but it is your responsibility to protect the public and make well-informed decisions based on the current non-biased and non-bot

33:13 research. This opt-out fee is unfair to those of us at a socio-not economic disadvantage when we just want to protect the health and safety of our families. We are at your mercy. Thank you. >> Anybody else in the audience wish to address the board this evening? If not, then I will close the public input session and ask for comments from commissioners. Sonia. >> Well, uh first I wanted to say thank you to uh Meredith for the comments on the climate work. Um we absolutely have to address that. We need lots of work and I don't think that I would hope, you know, as as the board, even if we have a focus on targeting some dollars towards large emitters, that we never lose sight of the fact that we focus on our residents.

34:00 So, thank you for coming out and speaking to that. And then uh just one quick comment on um the meter fees that are proposed. I just wanted to highlight there's a page in our packet that talks about the comparator fees of others um other utilities in the region um that we usually compare to. It uh generally the monthly fee ranges from $10 to 75, which only two of the 13 that are listed are less than our proposed fee of $11.50 a month. The vast majority um the other nine are 15 to like I said $75 a month. So I just wanted to put that out there is you know note on the comparison and the fact that it's

34:46 all of these utilities in the region. So thank you. >> Anybody else have any comments? Mr. Morris. >> Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I want to thank everyone for coming out and and speaking especially for those online and in person. Meredith, thank you for coming and sharing message that resonates with me as well. And I think it's particularly apt on one of the hottest days with a very high pollen count to also talk about you know making sure that our residents are in safe homes and and protected. So thank you. And for those coming out to talk about the meter fees that we had a presentation last week as well and my understanding of the fees that are coming forward is that the

35:32 smart meter fee of $11.50 is the actual costs of the reading and that's what I am hearing from staff. That's what my understanding is that these are the actual costs similar to packages, mail, other things like that that require home delivery. So that is the understanding that I have moving forward and that's the message that I want to bring. I also connected with staff to ask a question of we have our low income rate assistance our customer care is program and I asked if a an individual is opt out and does qualify for that program does that is that fee covered as well and the answer to that was yes. So that's my understanding as well for our

36:18 low income customers who are engaging in our customer assistance programs that that fee is covered as well. So thank you. >> Thank you. Any other comments? Okay. Well, the next agenda item is going to be board action items and the first is approval of consent calendar A. If anybody want to pull anything and if not, I wouldn't entertain a motion. Is there a second? Discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Approval of consent calendar B. >> Move to approve. >> Discussion? None. All those in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Passes unanimously. Okay, future board agendas. John Hairston.

37:08 >> All right. And Mr. President, um what we're looking at as I mentioned in July, um we'll have our second source preliminary um design uh presented. Um we also will have um the 2027 integrated capital and financial plans for the um electric utility. And then um we'll bring up the record of decision um on tier two for the BPA contract or resources. Um and in August, uh we will cover the water utility integrated capital and financial plan. >> Okay, any questions or comments regarding that? I noticed that we've got um quite a bit of time on a lot of the agendas coming up, so I I'm sure that that will

37:53 probably get filled up and then >> Oh, absolutely. Um I think just looking at some of the items that we um decided to push to the subsequent agendas um just to sharpen the pencils on, I think we'll have um quite a few things filling in as we move forward. >> And I'll just make note for the record, I'm I'm probably not going to be here for the October meeting. So, I know it'll be yours unless I get back in time, but I doubt I will, so uh anything else about the future agenda Uh Commissioner Slossberg? >> Yeah, I just have a question. Do we still have a potential um work session in August or is that taken off the calendar?

38:38 >> That's a good question. That's something I haven't entertained quite yet. So, I think we can do that or I can look to Anne to see if we still have that on the agenda. >> Thanks, Culver. We space some of those out throughout the year in case they're needed. We don't have an agenda for that particular meeting at this time. >> Okay, this this is going to be a record. Um Any Anybody have anything to for the good of the order other than John Perosky going to owe me dinner. Um that's okay. Okay, well, with that then

39:23 I'm going to announce that before I adjourn this meeting that we're going to move into executive session, which will ask everybody that's not relevant to the topic will have to leave. Following this meeting after a short break, the board is going to meet in executive session under ORS 1926602 to consider matters relating to the safety of the governing body and of public body staff and volunteers and the security of public body facilities and meeting spaces. Representatives and news media and designated staff are allowed to attend. We ask others present to vacate the room promptly so the executive session can begin. Thank you. So, I'm going to adjourn regular meeting. We'll take a 5-minute break so we can do the logistics and we'll just go right into the executive